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Post by LornaDoone Fri 11 Jan 2013, 00:46

Way2Old4Dis wrote:Yeah, well, to each his own. The vast majority of people who drink don't wind up killing someone or beating their wives, and making an ad for a recreational/social alcohol product promotes nothing except the purchase and enjoyment of said alcoholic product, so I'm surprised by the amount and depth of the criticism here.

Did anyone vilify George for the Mercedes ad? After all, cars kill a lot of people.

Cars don't kill people, people driving drunk in cars kill people.

But look, you have your opinion which is basically, George can do no wrong in my eyes. And I'm of the opinion that George has a bigger responsibility to conduct his life more ethically than you want to acknowledge. Fine, let's leave it at that.






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Post by Way2Old4Dis Fri 11 Jan 2013, 00:59

Don't put words in my mouth. I have never said or even thought that George can do no wrong. I just don't think this particular event qualifies as "wrong" or warrants the bashing he's getting here because of it.

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Post by very vera Fri 11 Jan 2013, 01:11

no one is ' bashing' just giving our opinion. some people like the video

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Post by FuturoST Fri 11 Jan 2013, 01:14

LornaDoone, do you think the stars are shallow with great responsibility. I do not understand.
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Post by Maggy Fri 11 Jan 2013, 01:27

Way2Old4Dis wrote:Don't put words in my mouth. I have never said or even thought that George can do no wrong. I just don't think this particular event qualifies as "wrong" or warrants the bashing he's getting here because of it.
Lol. If this forum was runned by all males then it would be all worship and praises. Right now he is all men's idol. This is their fantasy. You are not going to hear many men complaint or see anything wrong with it. What's wrong with a few women speaking up for what they believe is right?
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Post by phys major Fri 11 Jan 2013, 01:30

Well I'm kind of bashing it and I have no guilt about it!!!! I have an opinion and I have a right to voice it just like everyone else..
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Post by phys major Fri 11 Jan 2013, 01:32

Wait I am bashing it....lol
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Post by LornaDoone Fri 11 Jan 2013, 02:55

FuturoST wrote:LornaDoone, do you think the stars are shallow with great responsibility. I do not understand.

If someone is going to be a spokesperson for disadvantaged people, then their personal actions should be above reproach. That's my opinion, I understand others disagree with it.

But I do believe there are quite a few "stars" or people in the public eye that believe they are above the moral and ethical values of those they are either selling something to - or are telling should listen to THEM about whatever cause they are promoting without an expectation that they have the moral character that would give them credibility.

It's the hey, do as I say, don't do as I do. Or worse, hey, I can be a sleaze but I want YOU to be an upstanding citizen and send in your money, or read what I have to say about this issue, or agree with me on this issue and call you to action when if you knew what type of low life I really was, you wouldn't give me the time of day.

I do believe George is earnest and sincere in his desire to help, but his antics in his personal life DISTRACT from his overall credibility and that's my issue.

Be a private citizen and fuck around and wife swap and be a fall down drunk - if that's what you want to do - but don't come across with a" holier than thou attitude" when you're promoting a pet cause and expect me to jump and listen to what you say and more importantly, join you in your crusade.

We mentioned Sean Penn. He's been reported to have slapped Madonna around and tied her to a chair. There have been rumors and then outright comments that he may have also done so to Robin. He was recently revealed to get invited to porn shoots so that he can fuck as many of the porn actors as possible. He's been the subject of blinds that have revealed the darker side of his nature and his perversions. So I'm supposed to listen to what he says when he speaks about the need in Haiti? No, I'll listen to what people like Dr. Oz or Dr. Sanjay Gupta say about Haiti. In my eyes, Sean can go fuck himself.

As to George and Darfur? Frankly, it was his father that gave it credibility for me - he's the newsman in the family and has spent a lifetime proving his credibility in his actions - because he not only SPOKE his opinions - he LIVED those words too.

Walk the walk - don't just talk the talk.

I realize others don't think this is a big deal, but I'm talking about an overall sense that Hollywood celebrities think we should listen to what they say JUST BECAUSE they are celebrities and not because they've conducted themselves in an ethical manner and therefore have earned our respect by their actions.
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Post by very vera Fri 11 Jan 2013, 02:56

I never bashed it. i just got very upset because of my showcase. it was very dear to me. the way i felt when my cat sage passed away was the same way i felt when i had to put my showcase down. I kept trying to revive it but no one cared. i wish it would've gone somewhere i know this is the wrong thread but I don't care katie can move it if she wants. I didn't even mean to say i wish i never worked with him. I just. never mind I might be typing all night whatever
I'm dropping out of this thread. i might as well.

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Post by OofOof Fri 11 Jan 2013, 03:32

Spent the day out of town working with a large group of both women and men. And not one of them had heard of Casamigo or the video. None of the 23 women at the meeting I attended had ever heard of Rande Gerber and none of the men knew who Rande was or even who Stacy was. They all knew George and they all knew Cindy.

My point? I suspect that the video that rocked COH for the past two days has been seen by COH members and a few other people who bother watching OMG Insider Video clips. Maybe the video on Youtube has garnered millions of views. I don't know.

Finally, before I saw the video, I thought it was a bad idea, based on Casamigo's description of what was coming. I just saw it and frankly, while I didn't find it very funny, I didn't think it was beyond reproach either. Ol' Stacy out acted Cindy--she looked like she really had hooked up with Cindy--and Rande looked like... Rande. George looked like George.
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Post by Katiedot Fri 11 Jan 2013, 03:54

very vera wrote:It felt like you point blank singling me OUT!
very vera wrote:whew i felt like i was being harrassed
Vera, take it easy.

You don't seem to understand the point of a discussion forum, which is to have a discussion. If you reply to one particular poster (which you did) you can't complain when they then reply to you. Nobody is singling you out or harassing you, they're simply replying to the comments that YOU made to THEM. This is the second time in 12 hours you've overreacted to people replying to you.

I like to see as many people posting as possible with as many views as possible, but you seem to be far too sensitive for this.

LornaDoone wrote:If someone is going to be a spokesperson for disadvantaged people, then their personal actions should be above reproach. That's my opinion, I understand others disagree with it.
I think that's great but means next to nobody could ever do anything good because almost no one is beyond reproach.

Besides, by whose standards should we judge people before they can be allowed to do good? According to the majority of the people on this planet homosexual people are utterly immoral. Should women who weren't virgins when they got married be allowed to do good works? Or anyone who's had sex outside of marriage?

You may think these are silly examples (and I'll agree with you) but these are the standards that a large number of people operate on worldwide.

OofOof wrote: I suspect that the video that rocked COH for the past two days has been seen by COH members and a few other people who bother watching OMG Insider Video clips. Maybe the video on Youtube has garnered millions of views. I don't know.
As of yesterday, it had been viewed quite a few thousand times already. Sites and TV shows such as the OMG Yahoo Insider have big viewerships in the target audience.

I agree that it's going to take a long time before it becomes widely known that George has launched this tequila, but that's just the nature of the business.

OofOof wrote: Finally, before I saw the video, I thought it was a bad idea, based on Casamigo's description of what was coming. I just saw it and frankly, while I didn't find it very funny, I didn't think it was beyond reproach either.
Interesting point. I wonder how we would have reacted to the video if we hadn't read the marketing nonsense beforehand?
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Post by very vera Fri 11 Jan 2013, 04:04

i wasn't even coming back in this thread katie because this thread is sensitive because of my showcase. anything having to do with my showcase is sensitive. that's why i said i wasn't coming back into this thread. I'm glad i did to read your report. I am sorry i am usually strong but the showcase is hard on me. i won't bring it up anymore.

i apologize. I am usually stronger.
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Post by Maggy Fri 11 Jan 2013, 04:22

" I wonder how we would have reacted to the video if we hadn't read the marketing nonsense beforehand"

Katie, knowing something before hand by description is better than the visual shock to our senses.


"According to the majority of the people on this planet homosexual people are utterly immoral"

Immorality comes in different forms not just homosexuality.
And we all have the right to speak up for our beliefs but
not condemn. We all come short from being perfect.
Being immoral is our sinful nature. No one
is perfect or sin free.



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Post by Katiedot Fri 11 Jan 2013, 05:12

Maggy wrote:" I wonder how we would have reacted to the video if we hadn't read the marketing nonsense beforehand"

Katie, knowing something before hand by description is better than the visual shock to our senses.
You see for me, what ruined the film was the description "Loosely based on a true story". Knowing that killed the fun part for me because it goes from being a bit of a lighthearted joke to casual documentary. I think I would have found it funnier if I hadn't known they were trying to say that this is what really goes on.

It becomes an in-joke and like many in-jokes, if you weren't there, it's not particularly amusing.
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Post by Maggy Fri 11 Jan 2013, 05:42

I know what you mean, Katie.

That left a sour taste in my mouth too.
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Post by Mazy Fri 11 Jan 2013, 05:59

I have to agree with Way2, I have commercials a lot worse. I also am a non-drinker and well over 45, however I thought it was funny.
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Post by Katiedot Fri 11 Jan 2013, 06:02

Here's the Daily Mail's take on the video. Comments are a mix between liking and disliking the ad:

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Swingers! George Clooney gets between the sheets with Cindy Crawford (and her husband Rande) in bed-hopping tequila ad

By CHRIS JOHNSON

PUBLISHED: 19:38 GMT, 10 January 2013

So now we now what George Clooney, Stacy Keibler, Cindy Crawford and Rande Gerber get up to on those cosy Mexico holidays...
Well, not really. But this hilarious tequila ad certainly takes the respective couples' double-dating to another level.

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Caught in the act: George Clooney wakes up in bed with Cindy Crawford after a heavy night in a humorous new ad promoting his tequila brand Casamigos

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Not impressed: Crawford's husband Rande Gerber walks in on his wife Crawford... and doesn't look too happy

The bed-hopping foursome all take turns at getting caught between the sheets - with the wrong partner.

First off, Cindy's hubby Rande walks in on her and Clooney lazing around together.

George is seen waking up as Rande opens the door, before shooting a surprised glance at Crawford.

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Lovely ladies: Cindy and George's girlfriend Stacy Keibler also get between the sheets

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What's going on here? George discovers Cindy and Stacy together
The suggestion is they had perhaps drank a little too much tequila the night before.

In the next sequence George's eyebrows are raised when he catches girlfriend Stacy and Cindy sharing the same bed.

And to end the skit, Stacy and Cindy walk in on George and Rande sharing the duvet.

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By George! Now its the men's turn to share the duvet

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Heavy night: Cindy and Stacy discover their respective partners between the sheets
The tongue-in-cheek advertisement is titled: 'It could happen, please drink responsibly' and is to promote Clooney and Gerber's new tequila brand, Casamigos.

It was written and produced by Clooney himself.

The former ER star has been firm friends with Rande and Cindy for years - and shares regular vacations with them and his latest squeeze at their Mexican retreat.
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Post by OofOof Fri 11 Jan 2013, 06:22

Based on finally seeing the video, I wonder if they weren't joking or just trying to gin up (no pun intended) Smile interest by saying it was "loosely based on a true story."

And it has appeared to work; they've gotten more than 50,000+ hits on YouTube, not to mention hundreds of mentions in various tabs and rags. George Clooney is pretty amazing--he goes from zero appearances and stories to several thousand in a day. The power of the internet in full view!


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Post by HRC2016 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 06:36

I would have given it a (2) thumbs up, but I am BOYCOTTING anything that has Stacy in it! ET and OMG Insider last night started out the gate with Stacy and girlfriend pg GTC, and so now will find another program that won't be all about SK.
I liked George in bed with "Cindy" and wish they would not refer to her as former Super Model, once a Super Model always a super model, she looks better now then I did 30 years ago. I liked the commerial ad as my first BF name was Randy (y). And like I said if SK had not been in it would have loved it!

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Post by HRC2016 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 06:40

I think Robert Downey Jr. once ended up in someone else's bed or house years ago maybe this is what they meant by it could happen...

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Post by theminis Fri 11 Jan 2013, 09:08

Oof - the power of George Clooney in full view!!
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Post by phys major Fri 11 Jan 2013, 10:59

What I don't understand is why, when there was a blind out about them and there sexual preferences..would they release a video like this to confirm its them...I guess maybe he thought making fun of it before the blind was reveled would somehow be funny...
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Post by phys major Fri 11 Jan 2013, 11:28

No they meant there really swingers and wanted the world to know...I think George was trying to soften the blow when the blind is finally reveled...They could also be looking for new women to audition for SKs part...So Girls get your resumes out!!!!!
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Post by phys major Fri 11 Jan 2013, 11:31

I mean at least they could have looked wasted!!!!! Instead they look completely sober!!!!
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Post by Joanna Fri 11 Jan 2013, 11:34

HRC2016 wrote:I think Robert Downey Jr. once ended up in someone else's bed or house years ago maybe this is what they meant by it could happen...


It was a neighbours house and bed and they called the cops !
But he was totally smashed that time....

So.....Could be just that !



I wonder if anyone will ask GTC about the "true story" quote ??
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phys major wrote:I mean at least they could have looked wasted!!!!! Instead they look completely sober!!!!

True. And hairs and make ups are like they just got out of the beauty salon, not after one night of heavy drinking...

If he will do part 2. which I believe is the case if and as this turns out to be success, he could replace both of the females. To make it easier for everyone, just relying on old ones - Krista allen & elisabeth canalis and more action, would be more interesting.

Not tempting to send my resume but I could watch Cool

And underneath the sheets? Lights out too? No no come on....

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Post by Best in Category Fri 11 Jan 2013, 13:20

But there is nothing sexual in that ad. Just people in lying in the bed like girl or boy scouts!

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Post by Katiedot Fri 11 Jan 2013, 13:33

Best in Category wrote:True. And hairs and make ups are like they just got out of the beauty salon, not after one night of heavy drinking...
Well ok, on that level the whole thing doesn't make sense. Why would two of them be in bed and sleeping already and the other person finding them still awake and fully dressed? How on earth would that ever happen? And where would the missing fourth person be? In his/her own bed and unaware his/her partner is missing?

It's just an advert and doesn't bear great inspection. Most of them don't.
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Post by it's me Fri 11 Jan 2013, 14:31

it's a bit more complicated, Best

exactly what they wanted to

or no pubb at all Juggling
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Post by phys major Fri 11 Jan 2013, 14:53

I disagree with you there katie it does hold significance...it is loosely based on a true story or whatever he said...
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Post by phys major Fri 11 Jan 2013, 14:57

Well I mean they realy can't do a porno to get there point across they have to make it family friendly....
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Post by it's me Fri 11 Jan 2013, 15:06

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Post by Lakin460 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 15:06

There's nothing on Celebitchy about this, which I find odd cause they normally run news about GC & SK & CC.
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Post by party animal - not! Fri 11 Jan 2013, 15:13

Give them time...............sure they'll take a swipe soon.....too much else to be bitchy about?

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Post by FuturoST Fri 11 Jan 2013, 15:20

LornaDoone wrote:
FuturoST wrote:LornaDoone, do you think the stars are shallow with great responsibility. I do not understand.

If someone is going to be a spokesperson for disadvantaged people, then their personal actions should be above reproach. That's my opinion, I understand others disagree with it.

But I do believe there are quite a few "stars" or people in the public eye that believe they are above the moral and ethical values of those they are either selling something to - or are telling should listen to THEM about whatever cause they are promoting without an expectation that they have the moral character that would give them credibility.

It's the hey, do as I say, don't do as I do. Or worse, hey, I can be a sleaze but I want YOU to be an upstanding citizen and send in your money, or read what I have to say about this issue, or agree with me on this issue and call you to action when if you knew what type of low life I really was, you wouldn't give me the time of day.

I do believe George is earnest and sincere in his desire to help, but his antics in his personal life DISTRACT from his overall credibility and that's my issue.

Be a private citizen and fuck around and wife swap and be a fall down drunk - if that's what you want to do - but don't come across with a" holier than thou attitude" when you're promoting a pet cause and expect me to jump and listen to what you say and more importantly, join you in your crusade.

We mentioned Sean Penn. He's been reported to have slapped Madonna around and tied her to a chair. There have been rumors and then outright comments that he may have also done so to Robin. He was recently revealed to get invited to porn shoots so that he can fuck as many of the porn actors as possible. He's been the subject of blinds that have revealed the darker side of his nature and his perversions. So I'm supposed to listen to what he says when he speaks about the need in Haiti? No, I'll listen to what people like Dr. Oz or Dr. Sanjay Gupta say about Haiti. In my eyes, Sean can go fuck himself.

As to George and Darfur? Frankly, it was his father that gave it credibility for me - he's the newsman in the family and has spent a lifetime proving his credibility in his actions - because he not only SPOKE his opinions - he LIVED those words too.

Walk the walk - don't just talk the talk.

I realize others don't think this is a big deal, but I'm talking about an overall sense that Hollywood celebrities think we should listen to what they say JUST BECAUSE they are celebrities and not because they've conducted themselves in an ethical manner and therefore have earned our respect by their actions.

If I understood it well - everyone should behave decently . With that, I totally agree. I do not like when someone "shows" in public.
Nobody want to see a "my favorites" such as drunk.
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Post by silly girl Fri 11 Jan 2013, 15:38

I noticed that too. I really don't want to comment about this anymore but I have come to realize we are the only ones really caring about this stuff. Whenever something is posted on sites like CB or elsewhere the comments are not as long as they used to be.CB may eventually talk about it but in the past it would have been there a lot sooner. I noticed on Yahoo(which is the OMG portal) that the video didn't make their trends list and it was off their news front kind of quickly. I think it got talked about but not with the voracity of other stories about other celebrities. He makes a blip and then something better comes along. He is becoming an elder statesman in Hollywood which doesn't hold as much excitement to the media. JMO of course.

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Post by phys major Fri 11 Jan 2013, 15:47

Lorna u go girl....!!!! You are so right on....
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Post by Lakin460 Fri 11 Jan 2013, 15:47

yep, he's not the hot button celeb so much, even when he releases a titillating promo - "Ooooooh, Cindy and George in bed together!" He's the son of a newsman. He knows sensationalism sells, but so far, it's not creating such a stir (except on COH! LOLOL).
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Post by monaco Fri 11 Jan 2013, 15:56

Late to the party as usual. It's all a bit of nonsense really - would have been funnier if a shocked Rande would have caught George and Stacy in bed together Wink Its all a bit silly and tells me that George needs to get a decent film project and soon. He's got way too much time on his hands.

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Post by phys major Fri 11 Jan 2013, 16:08

What thread is the article from the Miami paper on???
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Post by Best in Category Fri 11 Jan 2013, 17:36

Complicated yes good pick of the word!

Phys, I think there is something between sleeping and porn, I have heard and read about it a bit... Not sure what, but "I have a feeling" there is something else maybe... Razz


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Post by Joanna Fri 11 Jan 2013, 17:50

Lakin460 wrote:yep, he's not the hot button celeb so much, even when he releases a titillating promo - "Ooooooh, Cindy and George in bed together!" He's the son of a newsman. He knows sensationalism sells, but so far, it's not creating such a stir (except on COH! LOLOL).



Oh I don't know.....it's been nominated for an Oscar for the
Most Boring Set Design !
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Post by Best in Category Fri 11 Jan 2013, 18:18

Katiedot wrote:
Best in Category wrote:True. And hairs and make ups are like they just got out of the beauty salon, not after one night of heavy drinking...
Well ok, on that level the whole thing doesn't make sense. Why would two of them be in bed and sleeping already and the other person finding them still awake and fully dressed? How on earth would that ever happen? And where would the missing fourth person be? In his/her own bed and unaware his/her partner is missing?

It's just an advert and doesn't bear great inspection. Most of them don't.

Good points!

Mathematically how many ways can they make pair? Rolling Eyes



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Post by Katiedot Fri 11 Jan 2013, 19:58

Right, hope this doesn't confuse everyone. I've been thinking that we seem to have a lot of repeat posts about the tequila video and then I realised we're running two different threads simultaneously.

I've merged both of them here. Hope the conversation still reads ok.
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Post by OofOof Fri 11 Jan 2013, 20:18

Thank you Katie! Was beginning to think I'd lost my mind earlier this morning when I kept seeing new posts on a thread I was sure I'd read already!
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Post by Joanna Fri 11 Jan 2013, 22:03

Good idea Katie...on the ball again !
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Post by it's me Fri 11 Jan 2013, 22:32

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Post by party animal - not! Fri 11 Jan 2013, 22:36

Now who's on the ball?

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Post by Joanna Fri 11 Jan 2013, 22:40

Coolio
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