Has George's current relationship [with Stacy Keibler] changed you view of him??

Doris,
Your point about shattering the dream is right, which is why it is nonsense to say actor's personal lives should not affect their career. They don't make the A List in the first place unless they have become the star of a large section of the population's fantasies. What we know about an actor affects whether we continue to cast him as our personal leading man.

Few actors achieve real star status without the F factor, to put it more basically. Some do, Daniel Day Lewis is one I think. You can tell them because some of their movies make no money at all, which means there isn't an audience who will see them in anything. It doesn't matter what's on the screen, they are watching the fantasy movie that's running in their head. I think George is another actually, though his media suggests otherwise ('women want to be with him, men want to be him' etc). He doesn't have that audience so he can't lose it. If his films get good word of mouth, like Up in the Air did, people will still go and see them.

Dexterdidit wrote: he doesn't seem to care what anyone thinks (except about Krista).

DEXTERDIDIT : I didn´t follow him then. What was with Krista?

BELLYBABY: very interesting topic. You lure out even passive members ;o)

Welcome LULA-MAE, CLOONEYLICIOUS61 and JADE

ELLO i don't think you are right!! he has a huge base of audiance and the proof is this, here in the middle east most of the movie goers wait his movies because they know they can trust him!! so if his mania hit us here then i think his name is worldwide trade!

Lol! Thanks Sad! And welcome to the forum to all the new posters!!! Always good to have new insights!

Thanks Katie for adding the poll!

pattygirl wrote:I with you both, sandy and cindi. People are getting really nitpicky. Is it just to give a solid reason for their disappointment? George is still the same actor, director, comedian, social activist he has always been. His height, weight, dating preferences, while disappointing to many, are really insignificant flaws, and have always been part of his persona.

This is true, and of course nobody's personal life should color your opinion of them as an artist (wether you're an actor, director, singer, etc.), but it does. I'll put out a name....Mel Gibson. Loved him as an actor, director, good looking....and then we saw what an ass he was in his private life....and it made a difference. It shouldn't - it doesn't effect his acting or directing, but it changed the way I (and many others) saw him. So now I'm not even interested in anything he does. In any other field of work you wouldn't judge someone on their personal life, just their job performance. But his is a public forum.
**Let me clarify here, in no way am I comparing George's dating habits with Mel's antics, just an extreme example.

George is constantly being given labels like, classy, debonair, distinguished, etc. So when the public person is not living up to these labels (I realize he didn't give them to himself), it gets a little confusing.

Also, George is just a fantasy to me. And part of the fantasy is that George might like someone like me. But I am sooo far away from the types of girls he dates, so it kinda makes the fantasy go

Hmmmm...I honestly have to say that when I saw him at NYFF was sad that my gaydar did not go off. I was hoping he was that would "explain" the discrepancies you all mentioned.

But I think he is trying to please both (his cray cray girlfriend of____) and the audience. So, she poses on the red carpet (he pleases her letting her famewh*re) and he pleases the audience (since she is not all the time by his side).

He could totally be the new rock hudson or he is trying to please his lady (of questionable affection. Is it the right term?). But going half way, let people believe that his whole " i don't talk about my personal life" is a complete BS.

ps: she makes him look older because she doesn't have a woman's elegance and manners. She looks like a teenager who's fairytale came true.

She looks like a teenager because that's were her mindset is. She's like a Valley girl from the 80's and 90's. Just a vapid blonde with nothing of real importance or interest to say. So she talks about working out and cleansing.

It's true, she does act like an "escort" rather than a girlfriend. Don't "ladies of negotiable affection" smile all the time? Actually Shailene, as young as she is, acts more mature than Stacy.

And no, his relationship doesn't change my view of him one iota. He's still the same man I'm attracted to.

I'm going to throw this in here, even though I'll probably get in trouble for it. How is Stacy part of his personal life? So far we've seen them posing together at public events. Has anyone caught them spending the night together? Has she ever tweeted that they're sleeping together? I don't remember any talk about them moving in together.

IMO I think he keeps his personal life to himself.

Stacy is not a girl but a woman now but has the attitude girl and it is for this reason that Stone near George. Stacy is nice, but it has a very large body of well-made and dressed on the red carpet will never have an attitude elegant even if the best dress designer because of his size. It also has a face like a doll (Barbie!) that is beautiful on a girl of 20 years but out of place on a woman of 30 years.

If as we all seem to say, we admire him as an actor, director, defender of human rights, etc, why do we all get in a snit about who he dates? Why do we care? I don't think it affects his box office much. Whomever he drags on the red carpet always gets the same pr. I really think he is very savvy about his public image. I can't imagine that he isn't aware of what his fan sites think of his dating habits. For me his actions boil down to either he doesn't give a cr-p what we think, or this is one huge practical joke to help keep his private life private.

How can his character be unimportant? His personal life reveals a great deal about his character. It tells us he doesn't like to spend time with intelligent or educated women. How can that be insignificant to you? It's people like you he doesn't want to know.

There may be justifiable reasons for it - he knows he hasn't the time for a serious relationship, he doesnt want to hurt anyone, he thinks famewhores get a good deal out of him. All that may be true, I don't know, but to anyone who values their education, and mind, it can hardly be insignificant that he, on the face of it, does not

Cindi, Has his latest marketing campaign changed your opinion of him? How about that? You are right, we don't know stacy is his personal life. Up to now I've dismissed the whole contract thing, except for non-disclosure agreements, as wishful thinking, but this has such a 'swap in another model and repeat' mechanical look to it, I couldn't say now. It just looks like he wants someone to walk the red carpet. I don't think the escort implication is fair though, there isn't any evidence of that in her life, I dont think. And she can't win on smiling can she? Not smiling draws equal fire - see Eli.

Dakota007, I overstated. He does have an audience, especially internationally, but it isn't all that big and it isn't all that loyal. He's had several complete bombs where the audience didnt show up at all. He favours films which are not obviously box office friendly. His personal life ought not to be determined by the box office if his professional life isnt.

dignity matters

says his alter ego

ps: she makes him look older because she doesn't have a woman's elegance and manners. She looks like a teenager who's fairytale came true..

I couldn't agree more!
Thanks LL

Ah, I'm so tired of this"he doesnt want to hurt anyone"!!!
If it doesn't count that he hurts himself constantly, well, at least he hurts me, because I like him and I suffer a lot when he makes people laugh at him!

Well, the persons who say that "it does not hurt anyone" will be the ones who are "selling it" [where the "IT" can be anything or anyone ha ha hahaaa]
Gosh, now to go up and read who really are the ones who said it... ha ah aha hhahah ha hahaaa to you all

In another thread you posted:

lula-mae wrote:I really don't like watching him making such a fool of himself.
I am running out of admiration and respect!

I know what you mean lula-mae. It´s not because of Stacy. It is because of HIM.

His name is his brand. Reputation is something that has to be protected. I care too much for George that I don´t want him to put his name into dirt. Look at all these once powerful men who made fools of themselfs.

George Clooney is contradictory. A hypocrite (sorry for saying that but I am still disappointed). He says one thing but does another.

Please don´t say anymore that you don´t want to talk about your personal life. Because you do anything to encourage gossip.

Why a movie about moral dilemma?
To make excuses for your behaviour ?!

I still don´t get it.

Maybe Bluebelle is right and "this is one huge practical joke"

Ello wrote:How can his character be unimportant? His personal life reveals a great deal about his character. It tells us he doesn't like to spend time with intelligent or educated women. How can that be insignificant to you? It's people like you he doesn't want to know.

There may be justifiable reasons for it - he knows he hasn't the time for a serious relationship, he doesnt want to hurt anyone, he thinks famewhores get a good deal out of him. All that may be true, I don't know, but to anyone who values their education, and mind, it can hardly be insignificant that he, on the face of it, does not

Bless you! So what I have been thinking since the Larson years and as his choices seem to worsen, it only makes me choose to be not actively support his film work when release in cinemas. DVD - yeah, but opening weekend - forget about it.

(Sidebar - that won't include Ides of March because I am counting down the days to see it and willing to make an exception for that film only)

"this is one huge practical joke"

at which cost?

thank you Ello! it was a great comment and I could not agree more. I've said something similar before and some here thought i was overreacting or not accepting him for who he is...which is really weird to accept someone who says one thing and does another one.

You can stone me for this but two friends of mine just saw Ides and they thought the George's character Governor Morris is not far from George's own personality on how he views women. Even though Morris was married and George is not, both attracted to young women and both view educated and older women as some how less desireable. Morris loved his pretty older wife, but had a fling with a younger woman. For both of these ladies who are Clooney fans said their opinion, especially this week has definitely dropped of George.

Ello wrote:It just looks like he wants someone to walk the red carpet. I don't think the escort implication is fair though, there isn't any evidence of that in her life. He favours films which are not obviously box office friendly. His personal life ought not to be determined by the box office if his professional life isnt.

I think this is the reason he's professionally involved with her. Although I don't undestand how she is complimenting his professional life. There certainly is a lot of buzz about the two of them, but he seems to do just fine without trying to impress everyone with his arm candy. IMO I would prefer seeing him with a more "petite" woman by his side.

Honestly, though of course I can't say I like him better becouse of who he's going at with (quite the contrary), the only reason why I wouldn't see his movie is if it's bad, and that's. That being said
the only real pb I have with his GF(s) is just the sort way they tag along the red carpets (worldwide, best desgin wide and what else)... Quite frankly he could date anybody I wouldn't care, and I think nobody would really, but the red carpet thing is always weird and tacky.
I could be wrong but it seems like a very George thing to do : I don't see that much major A list star bring along their latest arm candy like that... maybe someone here has an exemple in mind but I really can't think ofany actor who allows himself that (I mean I don't see Jack Nicholson - who sort of has a reputation - do that, he's a tad more discreet). Some actors/A listers bring their other half/companion/whoever they like of course - but don't systematically make a big show out of it (especially when the girl in question is nothing more than the flavour of the month).
And to be fair it's not the red carpet in itself, it's the way it's played out : with the descendants and TIOM, I didn't see (or maybe I blinked) any other cast and crew with their other half... which is why it - just my opinion - feels completly tacky and weird compared with the fuss that a girl's appearance by his side can do (a girl i've never heard before - but I'm not in the US, she's not even in the movie, etc...)
I think that if he could just avoid the red carpet, it would just go a long way .

George has walked often alone on the red carpet and why now has the urge to pull out always with a woman? He wants his private life remain private and that he has advertised. This man is becoming hard to believe a contradiction.

And you think it was okay for him to take Eli out on the red carpet... you cannot have it both ways, Lelacorb. Either he dates or he doesn't date. Looks like he's dating. But what I don't understand is... it looks like it's her premiere instead of his... Men are strange!

Cinderella for me is ok Stacy also does not suit me that he keeps repeating that does not want to talk about his private life and then the door on the red carpet before the world. In Toronto and Los Angeles fingva to hide and then in New York, Paris and London comes out presenting to the world. George being a public figure is normal then breaks out the gossip and what does he do? Criticism and gossip becomes ridiculous!

well he didn't talk!! he have to do that when all the media are asking if he is single or dating! each time we see him with a woman it become a big deal so he has to make it official!! weren't you all wondering why doesn't he take her with him??? don't ask for something then act like you are so scoked it happend!! it is better this way than cheating on your waif or gf..he knows himself better than anyone here!! and i don't know how you say that you liike his movies but you wont go and see it!!! am sorry that he has not very loyal fans who seems to give him their back in his biggest moments

I just don't get all the talk about his private life because I don't think he has a private life when he's promoting his films. This is his public life. When he's seen with whomever when he's home, THAT would be his private life. If he flaunts her or anyone else when he's home in LA or wherever that would be his private life. JMO

Although I don't see that happening. When he finishes his PR junket, if time has taught us anything and if he reverts to past behavior he'll guard his privacy.

where the hell is he
now?

yes where the hell is now?dont tell me that i will have to spend the week end in laglio guessing if hes there or not doing some wresting
please give me some pics of lax airport!

are u going to Laglio
Doris?

Not just the "current", but its changed me in that I do not do Opening Weekends - second weekends-and sometimes third weekends. I missed seeing UITA and The American. Still haven't rented them.

I waited for them both to come on tv and while watching the american sometimes I thought I wonder if Eli was hanging around that day especially the scene in that market. George want's his private life private when it suits him. It just doesn't suit him when he has something to promote.

the scene in that market

which one ?

When he shot the scene of Sulmona market? Ely was there and yes there is also the video where he reaches out and kisses her.

i don't remember if u have a link send it to me it's interesting !

[note this is not the link to a video from The American but to a montage of Stacy Keibler lingerie pictures - Katiedot]
lOLO FOR YOU THE LINK OF THE VIDEO:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ETBId9HINo&feature=player_detailpage

it's link for SK almost naked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nah, hasn't changed. SSDD or maybe it should be SSDG

SSDD???

Ladies, please don't get too upset over George's choices for PR work. She's well paid and simply not experienced. But for right now, well enough for the present need. Its the awards that she must be better at. When that is done, you will see that she retires from PR work. Just my best analysis of the situation. He hasn't really been attentive enough to be a real boyfriend. Its the lying reporters who make up stories that take all out of context. Please understand that yes, he needs a little help from time to time, and rather than just use someone, he pays them well for their work. And sometimes thats his lifestyle too, because of his career, he has never given himself a real life. Its hit and skip with the PR girls. But he has been quoted as saying that this is the last time. He plans to do less acting and more directing in the future. And I think he will settle down some in the future as well. Time will tell.

the last time

bah !
the usual lying

lelacorb wrote:[note this is not the link to a video from The American but to a montage of Stacy Keibler lingerie pictures - Katiedot]
lOLO FOR YOU THE LINK OF THE VIDEO:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ETBId9HINo&feature=player_detailpage

Sorry I was a little drunk last night!

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That's ok lelacorb happens to the best of us. Why were the two ladies who saw Ides upset? George isn't married and while he dates younger women no one really get's hurt. They do know what they are getting themselves in for they want to be famous and really don't seem to care too much how. Very different to me from a politician playing happy families but cheating on the side. Or did he just play the role so well they really believed it was him? Which means he really did his job well.

I agree Dex. He does do his job well. Sometimes "we" forget he's just playing a part. Too often, reviewers and even fans say that he's just "playing himself". His fans sometimes forget it's a part because it shows a George they'd like to know. Charming, suave, deboniar, funny, naughty. This is the first role he's played when he is really bad. He does play bad well, giving it his all. Remember he is not who or what he portrays onscreen.

doris day wrote:SSDD???

Doris, SSDD= Same Shit Different Day

and I'm assuming SSDG = Same Shit Different Girl

Thanks Mel. I was wondering too, but didn't have guts to ask. I'm just not into texting lingo and feel sorta dumb about it.

PattyGirl - never, NEVER feel sorta dumb about asking something you don't know or aren't sure of. Actually, the first time I heard or saw SSDD was about 15 years ago before the days of texting. I had it on a coffee cup (a different coffee cup than the CRS one)!

Hi girls!
I´m really busy lately, sorry for not posting...

My view hasn´t changed about him... but I have to say I've noticed that Stacy is a slight difference... I think it's in the press! are increasingly attentive to George private life. I noticed people around me, a slight difference from the comments I hear. Now a majority, even my mother, who never said anything, she has been said that he does nothing that be with girls and girls... I feel that people are tired of seeing him every year or two with a different girls.

As a fan I am aware of it and don´t care, but I've noticed in others.

hathaross wrote:Hi girls!
I´m really busy lately, sorry for not posting...

My view hasn´t changed about him... but I have to say I've noticed that Stacy is a slight difference... I think it's in the press! are increasingly attentive to George private life. I noticed people around me, a slight difference from the comments I hear. Now a majority, even my mother, who never said anything, she has been said that he does nothing that be with girls and girls... I feel that people are tired of seeing him every year or two with a different girls.

As a fan I am aware of it and don´t care, but I've noticed in others.

You know what is the problem? George is becoming less credible sentimental and old allegations are increasingly thinking!