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Post by silly girl Sun 21 Oct 2012, 15:16

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Post by Best in Category Sun 21 Oct 2012, 17:41

Fact can be stranger than fiction.

But one thing is for sure: she (Ruby)was a showgirl, professional erotic dancer with " artist" name "the heartstealer".

Did she start and end her career that night? No other names are accused but B? How come.

I find it extremely hard to believe that B would go to jail for this (for one day or let alone 15 years). They either change the law or find her "missing" ID papers stating she is adult and has been quite a while...

It was on a news too, that women wear dressed like nuns and dancing like not nuns - well if I have a fancy dress party at home with only adults - can´t I dress and dance anyway I like? Just asking, not doing it necessarily. I mean what does it have to do with anything.

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Post by it's me Mon 22 Oct 2012, 12:46

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IN THE COURT YOUR WORST ENEMY OF THE BANANA BANANA YOU: WRITTEN BY THE PIPPONE GHEDINI LONGO AND THAT YOU HAVE READ IN THE CLASSROOM, INCONSISTENT WITH ITS OWN STATEMENTS OF LAST YEAR - NOW IT HAS NOT WARRANT THE JURA MINETTI TO TAKE RUBY IN POLICE, MA IN JANUARY 2011 THE BANANA CONFIRMED VERSION DATA FROM OSTUNI, AND THAT IS THAT HE WAS TO ASK THE GIRL THAT WAS NOT IN RELIANCE DATA, IMPLIED CONFIRMING THAT IT WAS A MINOR ...


(banana is berlusconi
pippone is a loooong written/said text
GHEDINI & LONGO are berl lawyers )


in short he says berlu contradicted himsels

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Post by party animal - not! Thu 25 Oct 2012, 15:24

According to the Italian press, George Clooney and Elisabetta Canalis are 'foregoing' their expected appearances in court tomorrow.......

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Post by George Fan Thu 25 Oct 2012, 16:23

Story on the two of them not appearing in the Milano court for the Berlusconi trial on October 26th, George received summons at Lake Como and did not respond. Elisabetta had issues with her Green Card and cannot leave the country.

That Max the pig video was idiotic.

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Post by silly girl Thu 25 Oct 2012, 16:30

Someone mentioned this on another thread:

Clooney and Canalis to forego testimony in 'Ruby' trial


(AGI) - Milan, Oct. 25 - Called as witnesses in the so-called 'Ruby' trial by Silvio Berlusconi's lawyers, American actor George Clooney and former girlfriend Elisabetta Canalis will not be appearing in court tomorrow. With the summons notified at his Lake Como home in Italy, Clooney has simply declined an answer, while Canalis has informed that US Green Card issues are preventing her from returning to Italy. Showbiz personality Barbara D'Urso and Berlusconi's personal doctor will be attending instead. . .


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Post by MM Thu 25 Oct 2012, 16:38

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George Fan wrote:Story on the two of them not appearing in the Milano court for the Berlusconi trial on October 26th, George received summons at Lake Como and did not respond. Elisabetta had issues with her Green Card and cannot leave the country.

That statement does not make any sense at all. SInce Betta is an Italian citizen, the Green Card thing should not be factor in this situation. If George did not respond to the summons, would that not be considered contempt of court?
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Post by MM Thu 25 Oct 2012, 16:43

If Betta is an Italian citizen, I don't see what the Green Card has to do in this situation. If George did not respond to the summons, wouldn't that be considered contempt of court? This statement does not make any sense at all.
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Post by George Fan Thu 25 Oct 2012, 16:48

When you are in the process of waiting for a "green card" you can leave the US but there is a process in place and the fact that she has just returned from Europe is against her. This is from the Immigration Regulations on the subject:

According to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), immigrants can travel abroad while awaiting their Green Card or Permanent Resident Card as it is officially known. However, there is an application and interview process that must be completed before traveling. All immigrants traveling outside the United States will need to obtain an Advance Parole to re-enter the country after their travels, this also allows for continuation of processing for an adjustment status to that of a lawful permanent United States citizen.

With George as a U.S. Citizen he may not have to appear. I don't know the ruling there.

I think BOTH of them want to steer clear of anything about the former Prime Minister.

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Post by lelacorb Thu 25 Oct 2012, 17:06

MM wrote:If Betta is an Italian citizen, I don't see what the Green Card has to do in this situation. If George did not respond to the summons, wouldn't that be considered contempt of court? This statement does not make any sense at all.

To get a green card you have to prove to reside permanently in America, she returned to America a few weeks ago saying that he should stay in America a few months because it was waiting for the green card.
If George and ely do not show up in court pay a fine (up to 500 €).
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Post by MM Thu 25 Oct 2012, 17:08

I totally agree with you here, George Fan. I smell something extremely fishy here. Believe me, Sivlo Belusconi is someone you don't not want to have anything to do with. He is an extremely sneaky man who is not afraid to lie to get what he wants. So, here is my advice to Signore Berlusconi : Va c@cc@ pooping
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Post by party animal - not! Thu 25 Oct 2012, 17:22

Interesting.

Wonder if EC was tipped off, and advised to get back to the US pdq?!

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Post by lelacorb Thu 25 Oct 2012, 17:34

party animal - not! wrote:Interesting.

Wonder if EC was tipped off, and advised to get back to the US pdq?!

For what reason?
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Post by Katiedot Thu 25 Oct 2012, 18:13

George Fan wrote:With George as a U.S. Citizen he may not have to appear. I don't know the ruling there.
I'm not a lawyer so this is how I understand it: obviously, Italian law only works in Italy so they can't force him to appear. However, if they want to, they can make things difficult for him next time he returns to Italy.

From what I understand, George is meant to be witness for the defence, not the prosecution and doesn't have anything that's of value to either side to contribute so I don't think it's going to be a big deal. With the amount of money George has, I'm sure his lawyers have or will have smoothed everything over by then.

It would be different if George had major evidence to support or deny what went on at these bunga bunga parties. In that case I think they'd move heaven and earth to get him back to Italy and I'm sure there's a legal process that allows that to happen internationally, but as George doesn't have anything important, it looks like they're not going to bother.

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Post by melbert Thu 25 Oct 2012, 20:19

From the article above: "With the summons notified at his Lake Como home in Italy, Clooney has simply declined an answer,". Well, HELLO ya dumb shits* - he ain't there to receive the summons!!!! He lives in the US and he's here!!!!!

*not you guys here, the idiots who delivered the summons!!!
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Post by cindigirl Thu 25 Oct 2012, 20:24

I think you have to sign a summons when it's delivered so he's not there so the summons is invalid?
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Post by Katiedot Thu 25 Oct 2012, 20:27

Probably. Or I'd guess that's what his lawyers would argue.
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Post by The next mrs clooney Thu 25 Oct 2012, 21:07

From what I know a summons has to be delivered in person and handed to the named person for it to be valid so that could be why George isnt going because they didnt give it to him. As for Eli, when you have a green card or are waiting for one you have to prove that the US is your permanent residence and there is a certain amount of time you have to be resident each year. Given Eli has been doing a lot of work in Europe over the past months she may have to remain in the US for the rest of the year to meet her residency requirements.
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Post by lelacorb Thu 25 Oct 2012, 21:07

[quote="melbert"]From the article above: "With the summons notified at his Lake Como home in Italy, Clooney has simply declined an answer,". Well, HELLO ya dumb shits* - he ain't there to receive the summons!!!! He lives in the US and he's here!!!!!

Melbert Italian law is not easy, George is a U.S. citizen with properties in Italy and if he is deemed essential witness and should not occur could also deny a visa to return to Italy, or to force him to appear denying no show next seen or presenting the next entry in Italy of George with the forces of 'order and take him directly in court
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Post by NotAvailable Fri 26 Oct 2012, 01:30

As far as the Putin bed goes, thats an antique. George is into antiques. I just connect the dots myself. The reason for showing the bed, remember George was astonished. Putin beds may be very rare. And thats a new angle for his being there. Lawyers could easily use that to clear him of needing to be there. And as he can show he wasn't anywhere but seeing the Putin, that is prolly how he got out of it. If hes not going, you can bet its very legal. Canalis also, couldn't get out of it legally unless there is a legal reason. It prolly is in connection to green card as stated.
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Post by Best in Category Fri 26 Oct 2012, 07:17

The whole thing is beyond parody, the guy is a serious mess (B). Over here people talk about it…

B started off his career as a singer on a cruise ship. Self made billionaire. Few individuals have had such a profound and prolonged effect on a Western democracy (he has put showgirls, escorts, weather girls from his channels to European parliament). Putin has held more bilateral meetings with him in the recent past than any other world leader. (Putin had his own scandal with escort where B helped him)

No one is asked to testify without a reason.

Beds: Antique bed, which belonged to Napoleon (presumably) and has large canopy, bronze fittings and eagles on the four corners. B bought himself and it was for his house in Lesmo, near Milan. Very rare and priceless antique, only few individuals own. (one of the napoleon´s beds is in Louvre.)

Putin´s bed with curtains, which is described in detail in Italian press (no mentioning about antique) mainly because of one of his call girl´s recordings, is in Rome.

If he turned down B`s party invitation (after wine&dine) and just took off. Then I think he can turn down his "invitation" to come and testify too. king


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Post by MM Fri 26 Oct 2012, 15:10

I hope for George's sake, that Berlusconi will not smear him for some nasty reason. I would absolutely hate for George to be publically humiliated and embarassed all because "he was in the wrong place at the wrong time."
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Post by msadrienne Fri 26 Oct 2012, 15:47

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It's just the first case brought agains him, but I believe it sets the tone for this one as well.

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Post by Lighterside Fri 26 Oct 2012, 16:11

Looks like Berlusconi is headed for the "Big House" and it's not for the bunga bunga parties either! It's Income Tax EVASION! LOL

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Silvio Berlusconi Trial: Former Italian Prime Minister Sentenced For Tax Evasion

MILAN (AP) -- A court in Italy has convicted former Premier Silvio Berlusconi of tax fraud and sentenced him to four years in prison.

In Italy, cases must pass two levels of appeal before the verdicts are final. Berlusconi is expected to appeal.

The conviction Friday was the media mogul's first; other criminal probes and trials had ended in acquittal or were thrown out for statute of limitations. Earlier in the week, Berlusconi had announced he wouldn't run for a fourth term. The 76-year-old media mogul wasn't in the courtroom for the verdict on the case stemming from dealings in his Mediaset business empire.
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Post by MM Fri 26 Oct 2012, 16:59

Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho, Silvio has got to go!!

Former Italian Prime Minister, Silvio Berlusconi, received a four-year prison sentence for tax evasion. This trial is not to be confused with the sex scandal trial involving Ruby the Heartstealer:

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Well, at least justice was served in this case. Now for the future....

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Post by silly girl Fri 26 Oct 2012, 17:09

From CNN:

Ex-Italian PM Berlusconi handed 4-year prison term for tax fraud

Rome (CNN) -- Flamboyant former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi was sentenced Friday to four years in prison for tax evasion, but is very likely to appeal the Milan court's ruling.
His trial, which also involved executives from Berlusconi's Mediaset television group and the head of a Swiss bank, concerned the purchase of TV rights for films which were then resold within the group at inflated prices.
Prosecutors said the scheme, involving about 3,000 American films, allowed those involved to avoid a major tax bill. They may have to pay a fine of up to €10 million ($12.9 million), if the court's ruling is upheld.
Under the Italian legal system, Berlusconi and his fellow defendants have the right to appeal their sentence twice, in the appeal court and a higher court.
Berlusconi sentenced to prison
Also, because the case dates back to July 2006, the statute of limitations will expire next year, meaning there is a good chance that none of the defendants will serve any prison time.
Berlusconi, 76, resigned as prime minister last November amid his country's debt crisis, bringing to an apparent end an 18-year era in which he dominated Italian politics.
He had survived a series of political, corruption and sex scandals over the years, involving allegations of embezzlement, tax fraud and bribery.
He also currently faces trial on charges that he hired an underage prostitute and later tried to pull strings to get her out of jail when she was arrested for theft.
The woman involved in the long-running case is the Moroccan dancer Karima el Mahroug, nicknamed "Ruby the Heart-stealer."

American movie star George Clooney had been expected to appear Friday as a defense witness in that case but did not show up. The actor's representative said he would not now be serving as a witness for Berlusconi.

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Post by Joanna Fri 26 Oct 2012, 19:03

I punched the air when I heard that on BBC radio...then laughed when it was said that although he was sentenced to 4 years he would only serve 1 year due to legislation reducing prison terms for over 70's due to prison over crowding.

I said..."I suppose HE changed THAT law !"
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Post by lelacorb Sat 27 Oct 2012, 08:15

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Be the first to tell you like this Elisabetta Canalis
October 26 2012Roba crazy, open the news and see that series as # BarbaraDurso colleagues who have never had to deal with some scandals, are thrown into a cauldron media because of a liar visionaria.Pensare that if it was not due to Use bureaucracy I would be among them between stories Bunga Bunga, fake nurses and children'' convenient''. Jump to explain to those who flips or who only read the headlines of blogs in Spain, Germany, China etc etc (where I am currently quoted for this absurd story) that actually has a crazy INVENTED random names of people saying that they were to dinner with her in a place in my life have not happened either by accident (Arcore). At this point, I wonder, will pay for this Ruby for having laid a false witness? Or since I was 18 years old all you will be forgiven, even lie to pm?
I tried for years to keep quiet about it (when I received the news that this girl would see me for dinner at Arcore with my ex who I did't know then), but at some point I did not anymore. And amen if this will cost me soon the phone call from my lawyer or press office who tell me what the heck I wrote about Twitter.Una the explanation had to all, especially you who follow me every day on this social network and that you have revealed interlocutors more concrete and interesting to many people who really know. now becoming more and more reason to Busi (sorry not Fo) who said,'' I fervently hope that ANSWER THE PROCESS IS NOTHING IN FACT AND THAT BERLUSCONI, position on the accusation OF CHILD PROSTITUTION, NE ESCA acquitted ") - 2 -" WHEN I SAY THAT THE AGE OF SEXUAL CONSENT MUST BE LOWERED TO 14 YEARS, AS IN ANY COUNTRY CIVIL MUST ADD TWO THINGS YOU NEED MEDICAL FACILITIES AND LAY WHERE HAVE SE
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Post by Katiedot Sat 27 Oct 2012, 11:46

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Clooney absent from Berlusconi sex trial

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Posted on 10/26/2012

ROME, Italy - Hollywood star George Clooney failed to appear Friday, October 26, to give evidence in the trial of former Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi on sex charges, leading the prosecutor to accuse the defence of seeking to slow the proceedings.

Clooney and his Italian former fiancee Elisabetta Canalis have been named as defence witnesses and Clooney was due to testify Friday but did not appear.

"Like that, the trial suffers moments of blockage," said prosecutor Ilda Boccassini, nicknamed Ilda the Red for the colour of her hair and her supposed political beliefs.

The defence, who denied there had been an attempt at obstruction, had called the former couple to certify that the dinners held by Berlusconi in 2010 were not the orgies of debauchery described in telephone conversations by several of the young female participants.

Berlusconi is accused of having sex for money with Moroccan exotic dancer Karima El-Mahroug, better known as "Ruby the Heart Stealer", when she was 17.

He is also charged with abusing his position as prime minister by telling police to release her when she was arrested for petty theft in May 2010.

That year, Mahroug said under questioning that she had seen Clooney and Canalis attend a party at Berlusconi's home, a claim both have denied, with Clooney telling Time magazine last year that he had only met the former premier once to seek help in the Darfur conflict.

Boccassini said Friday that the defence had not contacted Canalis, a showgirl who lives in the United States, in time.

As for Clooney, "does it seem possible to you that you can establish contact with the American actor in less than a week?" she asked the defence.

Niccolo Ghedini from Berlusconi's defence team said there had been no attempt at obstruction.

"There are already 10 or 11 witnesses today," he said.

"This trial is moving ahead particularly rapidly at the rate of a hearing a week," he said.

Ghedini said he wanted to work in the "fairest and most transparent manner possible" in respect of the court.

The court has approved a total of 78 witnesses for the defence and 136 for the prosecution, including 32 young women who are said to have participated in the Berlusconi parties.

In a separate case at a Milan court, Berlusconi was sentenced on Friday to four years in prison for tax fraud connected to his Mediaset television channels and banned from holding public office for three years.

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ROME , Italy — Hollywood star George Clooney failed to appear Friday to give evidence in the trial of former Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi on sex charges, leading the prosecutor to accuse the defence of seeking to slow the proceedings.

Clooney and his Italian former fiancee Elisabetta Canalis have been named as defence witnesses and Clooney was due to testify Friday but did not appear.

"Like that, the trial suffers moments of blockage," said prosecutor Ilda Boccassini, nicknamed Ilda the Red for the colour of her hair and her supposed political beliefs.

The defence, who denied there had been an attempt at obstruction, had called the former couple to certify that the dinners held by Berlusconi in 2010 were not the orgies of debauchery described in telephone conversations by several of the young female participants.

Berlusconi is accused of having sex for money with Moroccan exotic dancer Karima El-Mahroug, better known as "Ruby the Heart Stealer", when she was 17.

He is also charged with abusing his position as prime minister by telling police to release her when she was arrested for petty theft in May 2010.

That year, Mahroug said under questioning that she had seen Clooney and Canalis attend a party at Berlusconi's home, a claim both have denied, with Clooney telling Time magazine last year that he had only met the former premier once to seek help in the Darfur conflict.

Boccassini said Friday that the defence had not contacted Canalis, a showgirl who lives in the United States, in time.

As for Clooney, "does it seem possible to you that you can establish contact with the American actor in less than a week?" she asked the defence.

Niccolo Ghedini from Berlusconi's defence team said there had been no attempt at obstruction.

"There are already 10 or 11 witnesses today," he said.

"This trial is moving ahead particularly rapidly at the rate of a hearing a week," he said.

Ghedini said he wanted to work in the "fairest and most transparent manner possible" in respect of the court.

The court has approved a total of 78 witnesses for the defence and 136 for the prosecution, including 32 young women who are said to have participated in the Berlusconi parties.

In a separate case at a Milan court, Berlusconi was sentenced on Friday to four years in prison for tax fraud connected to his Mediaset television channels and banned from holding public office for three years.
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Post by lucy Sun 28 Oct 2012, 14:47

The shame that such young girls learn the skills of seducing rich old farts for eighty grand and gifts instead of falling in love for the first time with a boy their own age or getting ready for freshman year at college. I know there we always be some rich old fart willing to pay, but it's nice when they get caught with their pants down. IMO George is to smart to attend one of these parties at his age. Not that he hasn't been a guest in his younger days.
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Post by The next mrs clooney Sun 28 Oct 2012, 14:56

Joanna wrote:I punched the air when I heard that on BBC radio...then laughed when it was said that although he was sentenced to 4 years he would only serve 1 year due to legislation reducing prison terms for over 70's due to prison over crowding.

I said..."I suppose HE changed THAT law !"

He may not even serve that given that in Italy there are automatically two levels of appeals.
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Post by Joanna Sun 28 Oct 2012, 15:50

Yes it appears there's a time lapse too....it's time for
Them to get back to the drawing board pretty damn quick !
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Post by it's me Sun 28 Oct 2012, 17:10

wait wait
he already said
he 'needs to stay' bec of our so 'so bad' justice

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Post by Joanna Sun 28 Oct 2012, 18:49

Does anyone believe what he says ?
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Post by melbert Sun 28 Oct 2012, 19:05

If they do, they are bigger fools than he is!
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Post by it's me Sun 28 Oct 2012, 20:30

here they say
it will be a good occasion for the opposite party to regroup against him

and all his party moderate side ppl are now practically disowned
so in great anxiety
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Post by Katiedot Tue 15 Jan 2013, 08:02

And this is still going on and they're still dragging George's name into it! Thanks Henway for the find:

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Court denies Berlusconi bid to halt sex trial

Monday 14 January 2013 20:17
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A Milan court today rejected a bid by former Premier Silvio Berlusconi to halt his sex-for-hire trial because of Italy's general election campaign, a ruling that means a verdict could come before the February vote.

Berlusconi's lawyers also decided not to call the Moroccan woman at the center of the case, Karima el-Mahroug, to testify, saying her testimony would have "interfered with the serenity of the electoral campaign."

But they asked to hear from six more witnesses instead, including actor George Clooney, who has said he visited the premier's residence once.

El-Mahroug, better known as Ruby, had appeared in court today ready to testify after having failed to show on two previous dates, purportedly because she was in Mexico on vacation.

Berlusconi is accused of paying for sex with the 20-year-old when she was 17 during his notorious "bunga bunga" parties - racy soirees at his villas in which dozens of young women were present - and then using his office to cover it up. Both deny sexual contact.

Berlusconi has apologized for hosting the parties, saying he was lonely after splitting from his second wife. Veronica Laria left him in 2009, citing alleged dalliances with young women.


Berlusconi's attorney had filed a motion to suspend the proceeding
Berlusconi attorney Niccolo Ghedini had filed a motion to suspend the proceeding, citing the demands of Italy's election campaign. The prosecution opposed the request, arguing that Berlusconi was neither the formal head of his party nor its official candidate for premier, and that he has infrequently shown up for trail anyway, as is his right.

In their ruling, the judges said Berlusconi's absences for a political campaign were a personal choice and couldn't be compared with having a parliamentary obligation - which has been accepted as a legitimate reason to delay a trial.

Ghedini said that in allowing the trial to go ahead, it was clear the court wanted to see a verdict before the Feb. 24-25 election.
"It doesn't bother us at all. It should bother the citizens because it is obvious that this will impact the electoral campaign," he told reporters.

Berlusconi has long accused Milan magistrates of mounting politically inspired cases against him - a charge they deny. Prosecutors had already said they didn't need el-Mahroug's court testimony, explaining they had what they needed from other evidence already submitted. The defense had put her on its witness list, but Ghedini today declined to call her.

"We would have preferred to hear her in the trial, but it is unthinkable to do something like this when the election campaign is in full swing," he said. "Our renunciation is a bitter renunciation."

El-Mahroug's lawyer, Paola Boccardi, said her client wasn't angry that she didn't have to testify, just "surprised that she wasn't heard."
Ghedini, however, said he wanted to call six other witnesses on his witness list who hadn't yet been heard from, including Clooney and el-Mahroug's mother.

Clooney has said he was approached by Berlusconi's team to testify about the "bunga bunga" parties, but says he only visited the premier's residence once to seek aid for Darfur and declined an invitation to stay.

The court is expected to decide today on the request to hear from the additional witnesses.
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Post by MM Tue 15 Jan 2013, 15:21

Va cacca, Berlusconi pooping You are so full of yourself.
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Post by m-ouse Tue 15 Jan 2013, 21:39

They forgot to add ''...and Berlusconi declined any Aid for Darfur''......

..... what a shame of a man! Noooo!
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Post by playfuldeb Tue 15 Jan 2013, 22:55

I can't believe that this Berlusconi thing is still going on
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Post by OofOof Tue 15 Jan 2013, 23:35

He will drag it out until the statute of limitations makes it impossible for them to charge him. He owns their media, in much the same way that Murdock is trying to own our media. He'll get off. He always does.
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Post by MM Wed 16 Jan 2013, 00:29

That really sucks mud. Shit hits the fan
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Post by silly girl Mon 21 Jan 2013, 15:22

It's funny how google and bing come up with different stories. I didn't see this on google at all....

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Clooney, Ronaldo won't testify at Ruby trial

Defence wanted stars to back 'innocent' depiction of parties

(ANSA) - Milan, January 21 - George Clooney and Cristiano Ronaldo will not testify at Silvio Berlusconi's trial into alleged sex with an underage prostitute, judges said Monday. Testimony from the Hollywood actor and the Real Madrid striker, called by the defence, was adjudged "superfluous" to the case, where the ex-premier is accused of having sex with a Moroccan dancer known as Ruby the Heart-stealer when she was 17, a year under the legal age for prostitution. The defence wanted the two stars to attest to the non-sexual nature of the ex-premier's alleged bunga bunga parties. The judges rejected a defence plea to suspend the trial for the duration of the election campaign and set the next hearing for Monday, January 28, when Ruby's mother will testify for the defence.

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Post by phys major Mon 21 Jan 2013, 17:56

If George testified wouldn't that mean he was at the bunga bunga parties?? Which of course he has denied.. this is a situation where he should not have offered to help..
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Post by melbert Mon 21 Jan 2013, 18:00

My understanding is that Berlusconi wants George to testify that NOTHING went on when George was there. Which according to George, NOTHING went on when he was there. I think that Berlusconi is guilty as hell, but wants to use George to paint himself in a different light.
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Post by phys major Mon 21 Jan 2013, 18:08

Of course he is guilty as hell...George knows it too I'm sure...so why even volunteer your services??? Maybe the time George was there nothing happened but I don't for a minute think he doesn't know the truth behind all this...I mean he was dating eli...
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Post by Best in Category Mon 21 Jan 2013, 18:11

When this trial will be over? Talking about playing time...

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Post by NotAvailable Tue 22 Jan 2013, 09:13

No, George said he didn't attend the bunga bunga parties. He very clearly said that. He said he was there during a time before the party of the evening he was there and was asked if he wanted to stay but declined. that means if Eli was with him when he went there, that she left with him, so she didn't attend either.

I am pretty sure George was intelligent enough to know at the time that such parties could have reputational effects, and might come back to bite his arse. oopsie
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Post by fava Tue 22 Jan 2013, 14:26

phys major wrote:Of course he is guilty as hell...George knows it too I'm sure...so why even volunteer your services??? Maybe the time George was there nothing happened but I don't for a minute think he doesn't know the truth behind all this...I mean he was dating eli...

Why do you think George volunteered his testimony? I have not heard that before.

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Post by pattygirl Tue 22 Jan 2013, 15:12

I believe he said that he would testify but really didn't know anything. Perhaps his reps felt that if he declined the invitation to testify, his detractors would claim that he had attended but didn't want to admit it.
You know, damned if he did, damned if he didn't!
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