Re: George Clooney and Amal Clooney NOT Splitting

by party animal - not! Sun 18 Feb 2018, 20:30

If George and Amal choose not to publish photos of their children - and he has said very clearly that they would prefer not to - then as their guardians that is their absolute right, and the rest of the world should respect that

by ladybugcngc Sun 18 Feb 2018, 20:39

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by ladybugcngc Sun 18 Feb 2018, 21:08

party animal - not! wrote:If George and Amal choose not to publish photos of their children - and he has said very clearly that they would prefer not to - then as their guardians that is their absolute right, and the rest of the world should respect that

I've never read, where George Clooney said he preferred not to publish photos of his children. Nor, have I heard parents referred to as guardians of their children own biological children. Guardian, is that a British term?

This is a conversation about life as a public figure, with absolutely no disrespect to George Clooney or Amal Clooney.

PAN when you suggest published photo's of celebrity children are used as props, that's disrespectful to celebrities who have published pictures of their children. You can't make a blanket statement like that, and then imply a response to your statement is disrespectful.

by carolhathaway Sun 18 Feb 2018, 21:25

ladybugcngc wrote:Amal talking about her marriage to George Clooney, pictures of her pregnant, talk of giving birth, and/or her life as a mother to Ella and Alex brings their story to life.  A document is easy to fake; a pregnancy can't be faked. Only someone with a twisted heart and mind would walk around pretending to be pregnant.

Carol:  We are able to follow many peoples pregnancies from (almost) the beginning to the end, but we've got no right for that.

You're right, we don't have written in our Constitution the "right to know the private life of celebrities". However if you don't want your life to be of interest to the public, then DON'T live your life as a public figure.  As a celebrity, having people interested in your private life is a part of the journey. Surely, Amal knew getting pregnant and having George Clooney's children would be of interest to people across the globe. I'm sure when Amal is ready, she will share her children with people across the globe; Even the future King and Queen of England share their children lives with the rest of the globe.

Amal hasn't spoken about her relation with George, their wedding, marriage, her pregnancy and children so far. The only interviews she does are about her work, and IMO that's something we have to accept. I guess that she wants to be respected on her profession and mostly within the legal world. This would be more difficult if she did home stories and talked about how exciting it is to be at award shows and film festivals. I remember that the British minister of justice mocked her for being a 'celebrity barrister' and her 'strange accent' about two years ago, so there's a very fine line for her. George is the one talking about family life, and that's their decision.

I know that there are different opinions on how public you have to live your life as a celebrity. After a pap had climbed the wall around their home in Italy, I read comments like 'That's part of the game' and 'They have to accept that they have no private life'. I think that their privacy should at least be accepted within their home (I guess that there's an offense called 'breach of domestic peace' in the States as well), and I also like the fact that they seem to be able to go out in public without being photographed (like when they went to 'The Mill At Sonning' on Christmas Eve and no pics of them were published). I don't know if I could resist taking a picture of them if I ever saw them in person and not 'in an official mission' like on a red carpet, but for me there's a very clear line between them as public figures and their private life. I remember that a while somebody tried to film George with his mobile phone when he entered a washing room - is that necessary? Of course they have the same needs as we have, do we need to document that?

Two years ago, my godchild was on holiday with her family when she saw the nost popular coach of a German soccer team who had just been fired after an extremely unsuccessful year. She discovered him and asked him for a selfie which he didn't deny, but he looked completely exhausted and unbelievable tired on this pic. Her action caught some attention, and suddenly there were dozens of fans around him asking him for selfies and autographs. The crowd grew more and more, and in the end he escaped which caused some very nasty comments on social medias. I tried to talk about that with my godchild, but she didn't even understand what I critisized about her actions. He obviously was dressed very slubby, unshaven and looked like a homeless. To me these were signs that he was on a vacation modus and not ready for public attendance. Does he have the right to go out and be left alone? I think yes, others will see it different.

by ladybugcngc Sun 18 Feb 2018, 21:55

Amal has talked about her marriage to George Clooney in interviews. Amal's pregnacy was obvious:

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According to PAN and Annemarie Amal talked about her life as a mother of twins in the Hollywood Reporter Article.

by it's me Sun 18 Feb 2018, 21:59

About the right to be left alone

He surely has
You can't be
"On" 24/7

Obviously you have to be decent in your look
IMO

by Donnamarie Sun 18 Feb 2018, 22:03

party animal - not! wrote:If George and Amal choose not to publish photos of their children - and he has said very clearly that they would prefer not to - then as their guardians that is their absolute right, and the rest of the world should respect that

Yep. Totally agree.

George is a pro when it comes to public exposure and celebrity and I think he and Amal have handled their new life together quite nicely. They also seem to be very deliberate in the way they want to keep their children out of the public eye.

Carol, you’re right. There are as many people who look at celebrities as fair game for intruding on their privacy as there are those who feel they are just as entitled to their privacy as ordinary citizens. Endless debate on that one.

by annemarie Sun 18 Feb 2018, 22:16

Ladybug read the article she said she wasn't having anymore children , and that George is a great father. i don't call that talking about her life with George.

The royals have to share their children when they are grown they will be in the public eye representing the royal family.
. George and Amal's children will not have have a public role in life. It is two very different life styles.

If you notice George and Amal are barely seen now they seem to stay out of the public eye. George said they live a very private life.

by it's me Sun 18 Feb 2018, 22:18

Btw thanks ladybugcngc for the explanation

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by ladybugcngc Sun 18 Feb 2018, 22:57

annemarie wrote:Ladybug read the article she said she wasn't having anymore children , and that George is a great father. i don't call that talking about her life with George.

The royals have to share their children when they are grown they will be in the public eye representing the royal family.
. George and Amal's children will not have have a public role in life. It is two very different life styles.

If you notice George and Amal are barely seen now they seem to stay out of the public eye. George said they live a very private life.

I've heard Amal talk about her life married to George Clooney in interviews, specifically during the 2016 election. I do recall Amal mentioned life as a mother and her children with George Clooney in the Hollywood Reporter article.

by ladybugcngc Mon 19 Feb 2018, 01:09

Donnamarie wrote:
party animal - not! wrote:If George and Amal choose not to publish photos of their children - and he has said very clearly that they would prefer not to - then as their guardians that is their absolute right, and the rest of the world should respect that

Yep. Totally agree.

George is a pro when it comes to public exposure and celebrity and I think he and Amal have handled their new life together quite nicely. They also seem to be very deliberate in the way they want to keep their children out of the public eye.

Carol, you’re right. There are as many people who look at celebrities as fair game for intruding on their privacy as there are those who feel they are just as entitled to their privacy as ordinary citizens. Endless debate on that one.

Maybe it's just me, however, I going to be super happy when George Clooney reveals the kids.

by LizzyNY Mon 19 Feb 2018, 03:10

Ladybug - I think we'd all love to see what the twins look like, but only when G&A are ready. Can you imagine how it would affect the twins to be surrounded by flashbulbs and shouting photographers? They're still babies, for Pete's sake.

Just because someone's work puts them in the public eye doesn't mean they aren't allowed to have a private personal life - especially where their children are concerned. If I'm not mistaken, a few years back California passed a law saying paps can't take pictures of celebrities' children. IMO that should be the law everywhere.

by ladybugcngc Mon 19 Feb 2018, 03:54

LizzyNY wrote:Ladybug - I think we'd all love to see what the twins look like, but only when G&A are ready. Can you imagine how it would affect the twins to be surrounded by flashbulbs and shouting photographers? They're still babies, for Pete's sake.

Just because someone's work puts them in the public eye doesn't mean they aren't allowed to have a private personal life - especially where their children are concerned. If I'm not mistaken, a few years back California passed a law saying paps can't take pictures of celebrities' children. IMO that should be the law everywhere.

Lizzy, I'm not in any way, shape, form, or fashion trying to rush pictures of George Clooney's kids. I'm not talking about a professional photo shoot or a paparazzi frenzy, I'm talking about a picture. If I'm not mistaken they take pictures of newborns. Newborns don't go into a professional photo shoot, they just take a picture.

I have not said George Clooney and Amal Clooney are not entitled to their private personal life. Celebrities like everyone deserve a private, personal life. My point is when you tie the knot with an internationally known celebrity, to think people are going to have no interest in the birth of your children is naive.

I'm honestly not thinking about what the kids look like. And, I completely understand why they would want to keep the kids private. I just think it will be super cool to see George Clooney's life extended.

I'm not sure where you picked up the conversation, it started with the reports that Jenifer and Justin may have never been legally married. Everything proceeded from there. However nowhere in this conversation have I stated George Clooney and Amal Clooney are not entitled to a private, personal life.

by Admin Mon 19 Feb 2018, 10:02

premiere wrote:I think that Gossip Cop debunking random rumors by tabloids is a publicity ploy. The last few times Gossip Cop did this, I hadn't heard or read these rumors at all. If this story is from just one trashy magazine why don't G & A ignore it? The only thing that makes sense to me is that by publicly denying it, their names get back into circulation.

Usually Gossip Cop respond to stories that have been printed in a magazine or widely disseminated online. These rumours then get picked up and reprinted and reposted online. That's why.

carolhathaway wrote:Premiere,
if an official rep for George and Amal had denied this rumor, gossipcom would have mentioned it. To mention 'a source close to the Clooneys' doesn't sound like an official statement at all.

I think, and I can't be bothered to check, so may be wrong here that they often just quote a source rather than Stan's name. I'd say it means they've spoken to someone (or more likely, someone has spoken to them - don't think George and Amal are high on the Gossip Cop radar) from team George.

ladybugcngc wrote:That's the only reason I took the time to researched the mentioned source. Gossip Cop did mention the George Clooney and Amal Clooney story was all fiction, maybe that has some merit to the truth.

The story was in OK magazine, wasn't it? We'll never know if the story is or isn't fiction because this isn't information that George or Amal will share with the media unless they actually do split.

ladybugcngc wrote:[I have not said George Clooney and Amal Clooney are not entitled to their private personal life. Celebrities like everyone deserve a private, personal life. My point is when you tie the knot with an internationally known celebrity, to think people are going to have no interest in the birth of your children is naive.

Not really sure what point you're trying to make here. George has NEVER said that no one is interested in the birth of his children. He's very much aware that it's the opposite case. I'm sure he and Amal have thousands of snapshots of the twins but it seems unlikely that he's going to share them with the general public at the moment.

by ladybugcngc Mon 19 Feb 2018, 14:31

Admin wrote:
ladybugcngc wrote:That's the only reason I took the time to researched the mentioned source. Gossip Cop did mention the George Clooney and Amal Clooney story was all fiction, maybe that has some merit to the truth.
The story was in OK magazine, wasn't it? We'll never know if the story is or isn't fiction because this isn't information that George or Amal will share with the media unless they actually do split.

I could not find OK! article Gossip Cop sited.

by ladybugcngc Mon 19 Feb 2018, 14:39

Admin wrote:
ladybugcngc wrote:[I have not said George Clooney and Amal Clooney are not entitled to their private personal life. Celebrities like everyone deserve a private, personal life. My point is when you tie the knot with an internationally known celebrity, to think people are going to have no interest in the birth of your children is naive.
Not really sure what point you're trying to make here. George has NEVER said that no one is interested in the birth of his children. He's very much aware that it's the opposite case. I'm sure he and Amal have thousands of snapshots of the twins but it seems unlikely that he's going to share them with the general public at the moment.

I can understand your confusion.

by Admin Tue 20 Feb 2018, 03:44

Hi folks

I moved the picture of Amal to its own thread.

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