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Post by it's me Mon 04 Jan 2016, 20:34

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The 20 Most Extreme Cases Of ‘The Book Was Better Than The Movie’
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Jennifer Lawrence as Katniss Everdeen in “The Hunger Games: Mockingjay — Part 2.”
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“The Hunger Games: Mockingjay — Part 2” rolls into theaters this weekend, and if there’s one thing I’m not looking forward to it’s the inevitable “I liked the movie, but it wasn’t as good as the book” I’ll hear after the film.
You know how the traits in other people that make you the maddest are usually the ones that remind you about a part of yourself you don’t like? The “I liked the movie, but it wasn’t as good as the book” shtick is that for me. If I have a relationship with a book and it’s poorly done on the big screen, on some level, I’m galled. But on the other hand, not every movie can be “Watchmen,” and by now, I should be able to accept the nuance of adaptation, being an adult and all. On the whole, I’d argue that haggling over which is better, the book or the movie, is mostly pointless.
The operative word being “mostly.” Because there are extreme cases where book-lover rage is justifiable. Which cases? I pulled the Metacritic critic ratings of the top 500 movies on IMDb tagged with the “based on novel” keyword.1 I then2 found the average user rating of the source novel for each film on Goodreads, a book rating and review site.3 In the end, there was complete data for 382 films and source novels.
Here’s what each film’s Metacritic rating looks like plotted against its source material’s Goodreads rating:
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The first thing that stands out: All the novels in the set are rated above 2.8 stars and below 4.6 stars. This is not exactly unexpected: We know, based on studying other such sets, that the distribution of user and fan reviews tend to skew higher than critical reviews. But more importantly, this is a set of books that were good enough to get made into a movie. Don’t get me wrong — Hollywood makes awful decisions, but studios are not in the business of adapting unbearably bad books. (And before you pull the “Twilight” card on me, keep in mind that these are fan reviews and that there are far worse bookschurned out than “Twilight.”)
All this really means is that to compare the set of Metacritic reviews directly to the set of Goodreads reviews, I needed to normalize both. I converted each set of ratings to z-scores, which means that I calculated a score based on how far away a given movie or book’s rating was from the mean of the whole set, rather than the skewed raw rating or number of stars.4 That gave us the worst movies (relative to other movies) based on good books (relative to other books) and vice versa.






Let’s start with the good movies! Sometimes an OK book is turned into a really good movie. In this case, the movie with the biggest difference between scores was “Up in the Air,” which was a middlingly received novel — 2.9 out of 5 stars on Goodreads — but a very well-received George Clooney movie, with 83 out of 100 on Metacritic. (I still have “The Passenger” by Iggy Pop stuck in my head as a result of this film.)
[th]RANK[/th][th]FILM[/th][th]METACRITIC SCORE[/th][th]GOODREADS RATING[/th][th]Z-SCORE DIFF.[/th]
1Up in the Air (2009)832.95.3
2Apocalypse Now (1979)903.43.6
3Metropolis (1927)983.63.4
4Scent of a Woman (1993)593.03.1
5Mr. Holmes (2015)673.22.9
6Sideways (2005)943.72.8
7The Graduate (1967)773.42.8
8Taking Lives (2004)382.82.8
9Dr. Strangelove (1964)963.72.8
10There Will Be Blood (2008)923.72.8

Other movies in the top 10 page-to-screen adaptations ever: “Apocalypse Now,” regarded as one of the best movies ever made and with a 90 on Metacritic, was based on “Heart of Darkness” by Joseph Conrad, a book that Goodreads readers didn’t love (3.4 stars).5 “The Graduate,” a cinema classic with Dustin Hoffman, was apparently based on a book, but not a well-reviewed one.
Both “Sideways” and “There Will Be Blood” were loved by movie critics — 94 and 92 on Metacritic, respectively — but their source material, “Sideways” by Rex Pickett and “Oil!” by Upton Sinclair didn’t appeal to Goodreads voters, with each receiving scores of 3.7.
Still, I don’t know a ton of “Up in the Air” novel fans out there. But I know a thousand fanboys and fangirls burned by poor adaptations. Which were the worst, then?










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Post by Donnamarie Mon 04 Jan 2016, 20:55

Thanks for the link it's me.  It's unusual to find a movie based on a book they rates better than the book itself.  So this list was really interesting.  I noticed that 'The Godfather' was at the top of the list.  I love that movie and did find it better than the novel.  Though I have seen many of the movies on the first list I never read the books they were based on.  
(Except The Godfather)

Up In The Air .... a terrific George movie.
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Post by carolhathaway Mon 04 Jan 2016, 22:19

That's a great article, really interesting!
I like 'Up In The Air' very much but don't know the novel.

I'm usually disappointed by the movie. Two of my absolutely favourite novels are 'The Physician' and 'The Pillars of the Earth', and the movies weren't half as good in my opinion (although I always thought as not-filmable.).
I'm excited by all the 'Harry Potter' movies. Not as good as the novels but nearly as good.

But I also know many, many novels that were picturized really badly...
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Post by it's me Mon 04 Jan 2016, 23:02

I am glad you were interested alien
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Post by Katiedot Mon 04 Jan 2016, 23:42

I try to avoid watching any films if I've liked the book becuase it's incredibly rare that the film will ever be as good as the book was.  Conversely, if I liked a film, I'll often go and read the book afterwards because that's almost always rewarding.
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