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Post by melbert Sun 09 Jan 2011, 17:16

Thanks Laetval and Katie. Keep on keeping on!!!!!
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Post by Guest Sun 09 Jan 2011, 18:07

He looks exhausted but happy. It must be really special and satisfying for him to be there while the voting is actually taking place, watching it all happen.

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Post by laetval Sun 09 Jan 2011, 19:52

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Post by sisieq Sun 09 Jan 2011, 20:19

I love the "we miss you John" tee shirts!!! I think that is great.

I was wondering if President Carter was going to be there since he has been a "regular" for contraversy. And good for Mr. Mendella, too. Senator Kerry. With all these people the security will be very tight!

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Post by sisieq Sun 09 Jan 2011, 20:22

Okay, just saw John P above - photo with Senator Kerry (JP standing way to the left). So, wonder what the tee shirts mean. scratch

George is happy - he has his "crinkle eye" smile!


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Post by laetval Sun 09 Jan 2011, 20:27

sisieq wrote:I love the "we miss you John" tee shirts!!! I think that is great.

I was wondering if President Carter was going to be there since he has been a "regular" for contraversy. And good for Mr. Mendella, too. Senator Kerry. With all these people the security will be very tight!

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US ex-President Jimmy Carter (L) and former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan (R) speak to reporters after visiting a polling station in southern Sudan's capital Juba on January 9, 2011, the first day of a week-long independence referendum expected to lead to the partition of Africa's largest nation and the creation of the world's 193rd UN member state.

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KHARTOU, Jan. 8, 2011 ()Former U.S President Jimmy Carter (C) talks to press after meeting with Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir in Khartoum, capital of Sudan, Jan. 8, 2011. Around four million southern Sudanese are expected to vote in the coming referendum on Sunday to decide whether the region should remain united with the north or secede to establish an independent state.
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Post by melbert Sun 09 Jan 2011, 20:29

Thanks so much Laetval!
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Post by sisieq Sun 09 Jan 2011, 20:31

OOPS! Wrong man - thanks Laetval for the correction.

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Post by Guest Sun 09 Jan 2011, 20:33

I assumed the John is John Garang, the leader of the SPLA who fought so hard for the south's secession, and died in an accident in 2005....?

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Post by melbert Sun 09 Jan 2011, 20:38

I think you're probably right Caged. That would make sense.
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Post by sisieq Sun 09 Jan 2011, 20:46

Thanks you!

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Post by blubelle Sun 09 Jan 2011, 21:10

In these pictures he isn't wearing anything that would protect him. I really think his involvement has gotten this election way more attention than it would have without his interest. He said this was his goal and in that respect he has succeeded.
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Post by Lighterside Sun 09 Jan 2011, 21:38

It's so good to see some of our politicians there to support the people on this very historic day as they move forward toward freedom.

This is a wonderful first step but the attention must remain firmly planted on the situation in So. Sudan or the minute everyone walks away and the cameras are turned in another direction the mischief will begin again. Once the accord has had time to take root and the disputed land and other concerns over the equitable distribution of wealth of the vast resources in the country have been ironed out, then maybe people can breathe a sigh of relief but not for some time to come even if agreements are signed initially.

I agree Caged, George looks very happy but very tired. I imagine it's quite an emtional time for him as well, sort of like giving birth in a sense. I don't want to give too much weight to his participation but I would bet it feels rather like that for him right now.
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Post by sisieq Sun 09 Jan 2011, 21:43

the minute everyone walks away and the cameras are turned in another direction the mischief will begin again

I'm sure. Crying or Very sad

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Post by it's me Sun 09 Jan 2011, 22:33

blubelle wrote: In these pictures he isn't wearing anything that would protect him.
I see

blubelle wrote: I really think his involvement has gotten this election way more attention than it would have without his interest. He said this was his goal and in that respect he has succeeded.
I agree


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Post by Katiedot Mon 10 Jan 2011, 02:50

This is the vide from It's me's link above:



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Post by melbert Tue 11 Jan 2011, 01:49

Thanks everyone for all the news, videos and your own insights!
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Post by Katiedot Tue 11 Jan 2011, 02:28

By the way, if anyone wants to add videos to their post - instead of just the link - look for the button on/near/around the video on its original site that says 'embed'. Take the 'embed' code (copy and paste) and paste it into your message. Et voila! Video!
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Post by Katiedot Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:52

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Post by it's me Tue 11 Jan 2011, 13:56

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The envoy of the Reform on the streets of Juba, between the optimism of the voters, the concerns of the intellectuals and economists, and the tipsy euphoria of the American leading the support of the U.S. president. . The vote took place until 15 January, results from later this month.

In the picture we can see a Clooney look very tired but also from the ethyl Juba. Juba. The night before the referendum, a magical night for the people of south Sudan, there is a handsome white peeing on the Nile from the garden of a bar for white expatriates in Juba. It is drunk, so that I could not hardly speak, but behind his desk at the row of cooperating is long and tedious. "There's a party with George Clooney" was the word of mouth that has spread into the international community in Juba, one of the world fed. "All all'Afex resort."

And George Clooney, on time, arrived, smiling a bit 'try from drinking too much, however, has provided dozens and dozens of photos with the humanitarian personnel. If you do the co-operating in Africa have a picture with George Clooney to post on Facebook seems to be a notch to put on the curriculum.

Then the handsome George, perhaps to escape a bit 'humanitarian paparazzi, maybe to do something normal, she decided to mix the liquid with those of its largest river in Africa. Perhaps he, too, to enjoy the flow of freedom that was felt in the heart The very next million southern Sudanese.

But to be fair, the next morning at 7:30 George Clooney was ready, clean, starched and polished, to welcome the President Salva Kiir in polling stations set up around the mausoleum reminiscent of John Garang, the father of the dead, perhaps killed, twenty-one days after signing the peace with the North in 2005.

Clooney is there, alongside the official envoy of the United States, signifying the support of U.S. President Barack Obama. For its part, the actor will give the Sudanese a very expensive "satellite humanitarian", an eye from heaven to make sure that they are not committed massacres and crimes against humanity in Darfur.

The capital from the early hours of the morning is full of festive carousel of people who go to the polls. The atmosphere of the electoral symbol of the independence of southern Sudan is great carnival square, with traditional songs and dances, thousands and thousands of people joyous and festive in a row, wrapped in flags, the SPLM, the liberation movement have now become part of government.

Some people he meets and beats the five, who embraces those who weep and who is simply in a row composed, aware of the seriousness of the moment put the card in the urn. The gesture is in fact granted to the ones we used to, but is charged with emotion for those who have had the war at home, family, him, for twenty years. Each vote is an important personal gesture and all, coming out of the booth, they tell you that this is the just reward for all this suffering. That the Arabs will stop now control about blacks as they did for centuries.

It's not often that a people unlucky enough to choose the path of freedom. The southern Sudanese are doing it now and do not want to miss this moment of glory.
In Southern Sudan, 75 percent of the adult population is illiterate, and for women the figure is 84 percent. The cards are then prepared simple and clear as if they were to vote for the children, the union is represented by two hands shaking, secession from the palm of a hand. To vote you have to put your thumb in ink and then place your fingerprint on the side chosen the "right" is achieved independence with the blood of the martyrs, who are all family, friends and neighbors.

We will continue to vote until Jan. 15, then, will arrive by month-end results. Ma l'esito non è in dubbio. But the outcome is not in doubt.

What is in doubt, over the division of oil revenues, is the final destination of the Sudanese region with more oil, the Abiey. It is one of the most controversial issues and should be discussed with Khartoum between now and July 9 when it proclaimed its independence.

Both the South and the North, for obvious reasons, they want it. Abiey also had to be a referendum but has been postponed indefinitely because you have not been able to determine who should vote. The Abiey is in fact inhabited by permanent Ngok Dinka, a tribe of blacks in Africa that form the bulk of the SPLM, but there also are moving Missiriyya, nomadic Arab population.

The clashes between these two tribes have been bloody in the past and still are. To be included, as was feared, in the last few days with a bloody budget: more than thirty deaths. And with the usual charge by the Dinka in Khartoum: Missiriyya has armed the referendum to destabilize the South

Alfred Ladu Gore is a general civil war, now presidential adviser for diplomatic affairs, but his position on the issue is very hard: "We consider Abiey the South if the South Sudan becomes free, without this freedom will Abiey sense. . Do not forsake him. "

In the rest of the country voting continued smooth and peaceful. The seats are arranged in the street under the trees or in schools dirty, damaged and without electricity. Urns crowded Sunday, and well attended on Monday, when he went to vote who did not want to put up with long queues to put the card in the urn.

Optimism is contagious and spread the same as the first day of the vote and continue the same throughout the week: "With independence comes the development and progress, we will not be governed by others and everything will be fine."

Turning between the seats, the streets and markets feel the same things, which is what the politicians and the army, then we went to look for someone who thinks differently. And we found at university.

"It's a historic moment that we do not want to miss. It's our last chance "also tells us Kimo Adiebo, Professor of Economics at the University of Juba. He is certainly among the elite of the country, if only for the literacy rates are so low, and is optimistic as the other eight million southern Sudanese.

But he sees clearly the dangers, errors and limitations of the ruling class. The one that ruled the country since the peace accords of 2005 which ended the twenty-year civil war. « "Since 2005 much has been done - he continues - but we focused mainly on reconstruction and corruption is a reality because the government has excluded those who did not make the war. The generals came to power and wanted to collect their loans to fill their pockets.

After independence, the SPLM should sit down with the other parties to make a government of large cartels. "

Cheerful, optimistic and determined, but she also with critical remarks, seems to be well Jura Along Nyapa David, who works at the Ministry of Regional Cooperation and comes to greet his teachers univeristari: "We young people do not accept anything that is not democratic, we were Long-class citizens, nobody will be able to make the new Arabic in Southern Sudan: we intellectuals must make it clear to everyone that we are now a single people, a nation, and not a collection of tribes. Se If we continue with the tribal mentality risk of falling ill. "

The most efficient synthesis of this land, its history, its war and these days perhaps gives us the Deng Garang, ventuidue year medical student. He likes to study and learn from when she went to school in his village in the province, and it was lesson under the trees of mango, as it often still happens. He liked to learn and has continued in his studies, though not rich. He wants to become a doctor because his country needs more than anything else of doctors and teachers.

"To be born free is a case - he says -, is a privilege to live free and die free is a responsibility. We have suffered so much and it is our responsibility now with the vote to determine our destiny, that is to live as free men. "

Behind the optimism of one who is going to win political freedom, the reality of the country that grows out of the referendum will be one of the world's poorest. All the indicators are bad and the amount of humanitarian aid, which should arrive in Juba each year is excessive. The 40 percent is food, the first need for definition. Because 60 percent of the population here lives on less than a dollar a day.

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Sudan in the queue at the polls. Con George Clooney ubriaco With George Clooney drunk

The Sudan at the polls has had its moment of worldliness. With George Clooney, to represent the country in support of U.S. President Barack Obama to underline its support for humanitarian aid, which took shape with a satellite pointed at the Sudan to monitor any massacres and crimes against humanity. And also a bit drunk, 'guest of honor at the party all'Afex resort.

And the bar for white, white Clooney has also done something very little humanitarian assistance, very little VIPs, very human: he peed in the Nile.

The next morning, the first day of the referendum for the independence of South Sudan, at 7:30, said the Reform, Clooney er Alinta and cleaned to welcome the President Salva Kiir in Juba the seat.

The Sudanese were in the queue from the night, although it will continue to vote until 15 January. In a country with an illiteracy rate ranging from 75 percent of men 84 percent of women, the cards are very simple: a figure with hands joined to symbolize "no independence, an image with a single open hand for yes. To vote, just dip your thumb in ink and then place the stamp on the image selection.

The tail-out is accompanied by songs and dances, and even some tears. . The hope, they say, is that the Arabs now stop command on blacks as they did for centuries.


the Shit hits the fan started....

or is it real? (the pic was from 9, not from 8, anyway)


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Post by Lighterside Tue 11 Jan 2011, 14:27

Casey your concerns and fears about the South decending into violence from fracturing factions is wholly justified. Just take a look at what happened in Iraq as soon as the oppressive force holding the country together was removed, civil war broke out almost immediately. There has been fighting in that region between Sunni, Shia and the Kurds for centuries. Removing Saddam had an effect no one in the Bush Administration ever dreamed of, much less anticipated. The same thing happened in Bosnia. People don't think things through or bother to take the history of the region into consideration when they start meddling in other countries affairs and it usually has a disasterous affect on the peoples living there.
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Post by it's me Tue 11 Jan 2011, 15:11

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the right solution?

and what about drunk G pissing in the Nilo? (is Nilo there also ? scratch )
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Post by Katiedot Tue 11 Jan 2011, 16:06

Is this the picture you mean, it's me?

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This was from your first link and the caption said 'George Clooney looking tired but also from the ethyl in Juba'.

Not sure what they mean by 'ethy'!
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Post by PigLove Tue 11 Jan 2011, 16:15

Ethyl is a kind of alcohol (although not the kind you drink). Maybe Google Translate should have said "alcohol" or "hard stuff."

I bet he wasn't the only one. But what's this about the "whites only" hotel? Another translating snafu?
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Post by it's me Tue 11 Jan 2011, 20:47

for white people only

ma la segregazione non era finita?
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Post by PigLove Wed 12 Jan 2011, 01:16

I guess not. Strange that we don't hear much about that.

He looks so funny above. Drunky Monkey!!! Effing adorable.
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Post by melbert Wed 12 Jan 2011, 01:43

He just looks like "I'm so happy to be here"! Just a goofy Drunky Monkey!!!
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Post by lucy Wed 12 Jan 2011, 07:21

If him,and EC don;t stay out of the sun they are gonna look like lizards,it won't matter how expensive their moisturizer is! He looks happy and a bit buzzed,I like the look on him.
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Post by it's me Wed 12 Jan 2011, 21:48

115! the eldest in Sudan Smile

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she said the most important thing, united or parted, is freedom cheers
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Post by it's me Fri 14 Jan 2011, 17:23

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Post by sisieq Fri 14 Jan 2011, 17:55

lucy wrote:If him,and EC don;t stay out of the sun they are gonna look like lizards,it won't matter how expensive their moisturizer is! He looks happy and a bit buzzed,I like the look on him.

He was quoted once that he drinks alot of water. Isn't a cure all, but it does help.

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Post by playfuldeb Sun 16 Jan 2011, 18:30

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isnt this from his 2005 trip?
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Post by melbert Sun 16 Jan 2011, 19:26

It is Deb. I think they were just showing a "history" of George's trips?
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